Puzzlebobble, on the Bad Science forum tipped us off to what should have been an interesting exchange of ideas.
The Guardian Ethical Living Blog have been doing a series of Q&A articles, where the public can post questions and the featured company will answer them.
Neal’s Yard Remedies, purveyors of herbal and homeompathic remedies, as well as a ton of skincare products and some cheese, were meant to hang around for four days answering the questions put to them. I suspect they were expecting a nice bit of free publicity, and questions like “Your ginseng, coconut and willow sap facial cleanser is fab – can I use it on my fish?”. Instead they got a bit of a shock.
From the beginning, the majority of the questions were of a sceptical nature, which I found pleasantly surprising – too often these sorts of things are full of gullible people who argue along the lines of “you can’t prove it’s false, therefore it’s an equally valid viewpoint”.
After many, many questions, NYR must have realised that it had gone badly wrong for them. So they bottled it.
have just had a chat with NYR.
Unfortunately, despite previous assurances that they would be participating in this blog post, I’ve now been told they ‘will not be taking part in the debate’.
So yes, as several people have pointed out, this has become something of ‘You Ask’, rather than a ‘You Ask, They Answer’. I’m still hoping NYR will reconsider.
Unable to mount any credible defence of their evidence free products, they bailed.
I guess questions such as these were too difficult for them.
you sell a multitude of products for a wide variety of medical conditions, some of which are serious or life threatening.
Please could you explain what level of evidence of efficacy you require before stocking any product?
If, as I suspect, the level of evidence of efficacy is poor then will you tell us what, if any, studies are done to look for harmful side-effects? How are these studies conducted? Furthermore please show us the power calculations for these studies.
Surely you don’t view it as ethical to sell products which are of unproven benefit and which you don’t even know are safe?
According to the website:
Aromatherapy alleviates stress, releases tension and eliminated toxins held in the body.
I’ll buy the relief of stress and tension, especially if combined with massage, but what evidence is there for the elimination of toxins held in the body? What evidence is there that these toxins exist in the first place?
Your website states that:
The correct homoeopathic remedy will stimulate a sick person’s vitality to send healing energy where it is needed
1) what do you mean by “vitality” and how does a homeopathic remedy stimulate it?
2) what is “healing energy”? What units is it measured in and where does it come from?
And many many more. They’ve really shot themselves in the foot, and it looks especially bad, as according to the Guardian moderators, they were working on the answers, would be jumping in soon, and we should watch this space. So they started to think about it, realised they had no answer, and ran away.
Classic. On a serious note, this does show the utter paucity of the evidence for most “alternative medicine” – if they had decent evidence I’m sure they would have engaged with the questions.
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